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Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 25 Avr 2012 17:13
par Paulie
Hi!

I have update my robot a little and created versions for beginners, intermediate players and best players. "Old" Pauliebot is for experts.

So there are 4 levels:
* for beginners: username PauliebotBeginner -- it has many features turned off and searches to a very limited depth,
* for intermediate players: username PauliebotMedium -- only searches to a limited depth,
* for experts: username Pauliebot -- nearly the same as old robot :) It has 30 seconds to think (often it thinks less than 30 seconds, sometimes more than 30 seconds),
* for those who like challenge :) username PauliebotUnbeatable -- the same as Pauliebot but it has more time to think (300 seconds, but again it can be less or even 600 seconds)

If you want to play with any of them, just send invitation with right username and the robot will join the game in a minute.

The robots are running on a server instead of my computer and thus will be available all the time :)

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 25 Avr 2012 17:28
par Paulie
I would appreciate any feedback. Mainly I don't know whether beginner robot is too much good or intermediate robot too much stupid. :-)

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 25 Avr 2012 20:09
par buyo
I played PauliebotBeginner twice and won both games (quite easily). I had the experience of 5 games before player the bot (winning 1 game). It is not too strong, in fact I couldn't find a strategy that it would pursue other than catching as much stones as possible.

PauliebotMedium beat me. He is too strong for me already :wink:

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 25 Avr 2012 23:31
par Mysterix
Paulie a écrit :I would appreciate any feedback. Mainly I don't know whether beginner robot is too much good or intermediate robot too much stupid. :-)


I played against the beginner one (I had only played 2 games so far) and I won in a few moves,
so I think its level is not too much good : perfect to help us learn the rules :)
Besides it is very fast, nice !!

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 25 Avr 2012 23:47
par Paulie
Thanks for testing. I try to make beginner robot a little better.

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 26 Avr 2012 10:16
par Paulie
Beginner bot should now play better. ;-)

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 26 Avr 2012 11:36
par Diablange
Hi,

I'm a complete beginner in Tzaar so I tried to challenge PauliebotBeginner.

Well, I lost twice, the second time I came closer, but still... I lost...

I don't know where you want to put the trigger but it seems to be stronger than a complete beginner at least... :)

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 26 Avr 2012 12:45
par buyo
Beginner is better now, a bit slower than before. I could beat him nevertheless, so I don't think he is too strong.

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 26 Avr 2012 13:05
par Paulie
buyo a écrit :Beginner is better now, a bit slower than before. I could beat him nevertheless, so I don't think he is too strong.


I agree.

Diablange: I think that you can beat him soon.

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 26 Avr 2012 13:33
par Diablange
I'll try to, give me back my ELO points, you bot... ;)

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 26 Avr 2012 14:13
par Xo
I tried twice the beginner level, I loose twice :D
I played too quickly, as usual :roll: ...

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 26 Avr 2012 17:51
par Diablange
Well, I don't manage to beat the beginner bot... 4 defeats... :D

So either I make very big mistakes (I did one in last game, but nevertheless I didn't feel before doing it that I was taking advantage before), either you guys are not able to judge anymore the level of a beginner... :) (no offense)

It really seems too strong to me.

Again, I know I don't have experience, but it shouldn't be aligned on better players than beginners.

Now you do what you want with it, I just wanted to help you with this bot (I started to play after I read the topic). :)

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 26 Avr 2012 20:35
par Xo
I have a little experience (in Division 5 I did quite well last season :D )
Third defeat for me ... a little too clever for me :P

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 27 Avr 2012 1:08
par Paulie
Xo a écrit :I have a little experience (in Division 5 I did quite well last season :D )
Third defeat for me ... a little too clever for me :P


Ok, maybe it's too clever ... I'll try to change it slightly.

Re: Tzaar robots: different levels

Message Publié : 27 Avr 2012 8:02
par Xo
Paulie a écrit :
Xo a écrit :I have a little experience (in Division 5 I did quite well last season :D )
Third defeat for me ... a little too clever for me :P


Ok, maybe it's too clever ... I'll try to change it slightly.

For me, certainly :roll:
For a beginner, I sincerely think so, also

For a true beginner, you can also try mat76 bot, it's quite funny to play :clown: (troll inside)